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What makes so-called "evangelical" Christians feel so morally superior to others? I believe that many such people know in their hearts that they are "petty" people, i.e. the French word for "small" (intellectually, emotionally or morally, if not physically), but they try to build up their self-image by trying to tear other people down. Sadly, many such people who have been nurtured in Christian communities have been taught ways of using the holy scriptures to view homosexuals as moral inferiors, just as their Christian forebears were taught to use those same scriptures to despise Jews, and then black people. Every now and then such people seem compelled to prove just how "normal" heterosexuals like themselves are by brutalizing and/or killing supposedly "abnormal" homosexuals ! A letter from a son who left the Phelps family / church Mark Phelps wrote the following to the citizens of Topeka, Kansas, homebase for his (in)famous father. It is printed at his request in The Capital-Journal on May 19, 1993. Contacted by telephone in California July 7, 1994, Mark Phelps said the letter still represents his feelings. He also cautioned people against taking the letter out of context, saying there is "gentleness" in the context of the letter and a hope that the community can better understand Fred Phelps based on what the letter contains.
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wasn't about homosexuality Although today's Christians have been programed to view this story as an account of homosexuality gone wild, that's not what the bible authors themselves saw in that story:
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I've read a lot of the news reports on Rev. Barnes' resignation from his megachurch after he "confessed" his homosexuality. They all quoted a religious leader on the right who declared homosexuality a sin, and several stated their belief that homosexuality was a choice. When religion loses its credibility by Baptist preacher, Oliver "Buzz" Thomas, is another superb editorial / sermon that I highly recommend in its entirety. |
A. (in keeping with II Sam. 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron. 11:21) marriage must not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. B. (in keeping with Deut. 22:13-21) in order to be considered valid, a marriage the bride must be a virgin. If she is not a virgin, she must be executed. C. (in keeping with Gen. 24:3; Num. 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh. 10:30) marriage of a believer and a non-believer must be forbidden. D. (in keeping with Deut. 22:19; Mark 10:9) since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. E. (in keeping with Gen. 38:6-10; Deut. 25:5-10) when a married man dies without children, his brother must marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he must pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. Here's a letter to everyone who, like Dr. Laura Schlessinger, choose a select few verses of the Book of Leviticus, which they consider "God's Word" when they want to lecture homosexuals, but which they completely ignore when it comes to a great many other prohibitions of that very same book, namely Leviticus, Ch. 18, which claims God Almighty for the source of all which follows, "The Lord spoke to Moses, saying:' Speak to the people of Israel and say to them: I am the Lord your God. You must not do as they do in the land of Egypt, where you lived, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan, to which I am bringing you. You must not follow their statutes. My ordinances you must observe and my statutes you must keep, following them: I am the Lord your God. You must keep my statutes and my ordinances; by doing so one shall live: I am the Lord.' :
Dear Dr. Laura,
And thanks for reminding us of God's eternal and unchanging word of truth. Your devoted disciple and adoring fan." On Oct. 18, 2000, West Wing's President Bartlett did a great job of delivering many of these same lines to a "Dr. Jacobs" . Two clips of that marvelous scene may still be available at clip 1 & clip 2 (1.4 meg each). |
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| If I were a great British former comedian and now internet sensation, like Pat Condell, this is the way I would summarize the contents of this web page, in 4 minutes:
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 These children don't even know yet if they are homo- or hetero- sexual, But ignorance has never prevented preachers from using others who are even less educated than themselves to promote their causes. |
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"Marriages are not in trouble because 50% of them end in homosexuality!" The "many a truth is said in jest" reporter, Jon Stewart, [ to Bill Bennett, June 07, 2006 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLxVgXSveA&NR ] "Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality" : Explode the Myths, Heal the Church, by Jack Rogers. A life-long evangelical and a respected Presbyterian theologian, Rogers argues that fidelity to the Bible demands equal rights in the church and society for people who are LGBT. Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality describes Rogers' own change of mind and heart on the issue; charts the church's well-documented history of using biblical passages to oppress marginalized groups; argues for a Christ-centered reading of Scripture; and debunks oft-repeated stereotypes about gays and lesbians. "The best methods of interpretation, from the Reformation on down through today, call upon us to interpret the Scripture through the lens of Jesus Christ's life and ministry. Using this method we see clearly that Jesus and the Bible, properly understood, do not condemn people who are homosexual," Rogers writes in a stirring conclusion that is sure to provoke debate. Soulforce booklet on James Dobson A False Focus on My Family: (a booklet that you can download and print, or buy ) Why every person of faith should be deeply troubled by Dr. James Dobson's dangerous and misleading words about the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. |
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Christian Conservatives pretend that their negative view of homosexuality is the only Christian view. But it isn't. On Sept., 11, 2006, many church leaders gathered in Dallas, Texas and issued the following official statement:
STATEMENT BY BISHOPS AND ELDERS COUNCIL
�On September 11, 2001, some leading Christian extremists portrayed the tragedy of 9/11 as God’s judgment on America for the presence of gays and lesbians. The intervening years have witnessed an alarming escalation of religion-based, anti-gay attacks by both political leaders and religious groups.
�As unified followers of Christ, reclaiming our faith, we commit to speak boldly with our own communities and the larger culture from out of our experience as those who have been both oppressed and oppressor. We will communicate God’s incessant call for justice, wholeness and peace and work to equip ourselves and others to take concrete action to achieve God’s loving shalom.
I am constantly amazed by the inability of most religious people who object to gay marriage to grasp the concept of a word like "marriage" having more than ONE "definition". Have they never looked up a word in the dictionary and found that it could have several different meanings, depending on the intention of the user? My Heritage Dictionary, for example, offers 13 different definitions for the noun "bar". As used in America today, is it too much to ask that people understand that the word "marriage" doesn't have to mean "the sacrament of Holy Matrimony performed for a man and a woman who meet the standards of eligibility by a priest who has been ordained by a bishop who can trace his roots to Jesus through one of the original bishops"? (That's what it takes to be truly "married" in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church. Other churches have their own "definitions" of marriage). Ever since the stranglehold of the Church over the State has been broken, however, the "State" has had a different, more liberal "definition" for marriage. As a Liberal Christian clergyman (of French extraction) , I say, "Vive la difference!" Let the churches all have and enforce their own definitions of "marriage" on all of those who willingly embrace their particular faith. But let the churches mind their own business and let the state define the "marriage" that it deals with in its civil laws, as it sees fit, according to its own Constitutions and the laws passed by the representatives of the people, as dictated by science and reason, not by Leviticus, or even Paul of Tarsus. As for "Defense Of Marriage" Acts, "DOMA"s, I predict that the effort by Conservative states to define "marriage" as a "union between one man and one woman" will backfire. Probably sooner rather than later, the courts (and/or legislatures) will declare it unfair and unjust for the government to be giving special privileges to some couples, just because one is a male and one a female, and not to other citizens, and the privileges of civil marriage will ALL be removed, (or they will be extended to all citizens who wish to marry, regardless of gender.) P.S.: Gay people aren't asking for any of the privileges afforded by religious marriage, whatever they may be. All they are asking for are the privileges and rights and obligations afforded by the civil government through what that government calls "marriage", like the right to visit one's spouse in the hospital, make decisions for one's spouse when need be, raise children with them if so desired, share pensions rights and health insurance, and finally inherit property that was accumulated together. None of this has anything to do with "the Sacrament of Holy matrimony", and allowing gays to have such rights won't endanger what churches call "marriage" one bit. |
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Shortly after the terrible hurricane killed thousands of poor people in New Orleans, Louisiana, a Christian Conservative web site (repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html) posted an article proclaiming that
Hurricane Katrina Destroys New Orleans What a dud God is, if he intended to punish degenerate gays, and scheduled Hurricane Katrina the week before the sinners were in town ! |
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Though not as abrasive as Rev. Phelps, a number of other "Conservative" Christian leaders in America have been getting more and more intolerant of gays in recent years, not just in their own churches, but in the public square as well. They have been vociferous in their objections to gays being allowed to serve openly in the military, against gays being protected from discrimination in housing and employment, against gays being allowed to parent children in need of adoption, against gays being allowed to marry those with whom they plan to spend the rest of their lives, against gays being given any measure of legal protection through civil rights legislation, as well as being against gays having leadership roles in the church or in other organizations in which they serve. Lurking behind much of this "frenzy" is the idea that homosexuality and the Bible are incompatible. "We reject [homosexuals], treat them as pariahs, and push them outside our church communities, and thereby we negate the consequences of their baptism and ours. We make them doubt that they are the children of God, and this must be nearly the ultimate blasphemy. We blame them for something that is becoming increasingly clear they can do little about. " In a Massachusetts survey of high school homosexuals recently, 40% reported they had attempted suicide. Now this percentage obviously doesn't include those who succeeded. And if the figure is this high in one of the country's most progressive states, just imagine what it is like in the much more regressive states. One need not be homosexual, however to wonder why so-called "Christians" are concentrating so much of their energy condemning this one sin (if indeed it is a sin). If Christian Conservatives paid more attention to the Christ they claim to believe in, then they would be concerned about many other things. Most notably, Jesus objected to a heterosexual sin called "divorce" far more strenuously than he objected to homosexuality (which he never even mentioned). So why aren't so-called Christian Conservatives hunting down and rounding up all of the perpetrators of divorce in America these days? Why, indeed, are they going out of their way to endorse the candidacy of as many divorced Republicans as they can find? Divorce practically seems to be a requirement these days for a leadership position in the Republican Party. According to Christ's teaching, Senator Strom Thurmond and Congressman Bob Barr, are now living in their third full-time adulterous relationship, since divorcing their first and only true wives years ago. Rush Limbaugh and Representatives Guy Millner and Newt Gingrich are living full-time in their second publicly known adulterous relationships. How and why were "Christian Conservatives" able to reject the most pious Christian President America ever had, Jimmy Carter, in order to embrace a known adulterer and divorced Hollywood actor, Ronald Reagan, who hardly ever bothered to go to a church, unless it was a political event? Isn't it amazing how "liberal" Christian Conservatives can be when it comes to Republican Senators and Presidential Candidates like Bob Dole, Liddy Dole and John McCain, who have abandoned their true wives and children and, according to the teaching of Jesus, have made them adulteresses.
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| The media (which Conservatives laughingly call "liberal") and the Republican Party have conspired to paint the Democratic party as the less moral of the two major parties. But the fact is that only a third as many scandals are known about Democrats in high office as there are about Republicans. See http://LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/about/blindleaders.html about hypocritical Conservative religious leaders , and http://LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/about/gopcorruption.html about hypocritical Republican politicians.
Now, divorce was far from Jesus' greatest concern. But, isn't it hypocritical for Conservatives to attack homosexuality in Jesus' name, while ignoring divorce. Jesus never said a bad word about homosexuality, but he did condemn divorce!
his most important teaching. or click here to find out why Conservative Christians PREFER Paul of Tarsus to Jesus of Nazareth ! If you are a Christian homosexual who expects the way homosexuals are being treated by most denominations today to change, then I urge you to join in promoting the essence of the Gospels: Christ's demands that we love and help those less fortunate than ourselves. "Christians" will only treat you fairly, when they treat everyone, the poor, the needy, the imprisoned, the immigrant, and all needy people with the justice and compassion that the bible demands ! And now, if you haven't already done so, be sure to check out the accompanying web page: Here are additional resources:
If you are a Catholic GLBT or ally, then be sure to Fred Phelps isn't the only "Christian" preacher who is promoting the idea that "God hates fags". Donnie Davies is another. http://www.eveningservice.com/Video features him singing his "God hates fags". song. |
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How Do You Know
Were you born "normal", as either a boy or a girl with all the right sex organs in the right place and with the "normal" sex drives? Are you sure? Many people who think so are wrong, and may never know it. Most of us assume that every baby born is either a boy or a girl; but that is simply not the case.
That You Are "Normal"?
About one in 45,000 children are born without a clearly identifiable gender. Doctors, patients and parents are faced with huge dilemmas when they have to make the choice - boy or girl. Rae Fry asks at what stage in the child's life should the choice be made? And does the choice have to be made at all?. . . How many people would continue to deny that people are born homosexual if they had any idea how ambiguous the whole issue of sexuality really is and how tenuous their own sexuality is? We would call in the white coats to cart off anybody who claimed that people choose to be hermaphodites. Yet we take people seriously when they claim that people choose to be homosexual ! |
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