| War vs. Peace |
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When this page was created, George W. Bush had gotten the U.S. into war with Iraq. Much of what I asembled for this page had to do with war and peace in general, and since that continues to be a matter of grave concern, those portions of this page are still relevant.
The writings in the bible have been used to justify
some of the most horrific things in human history: the crusades, the Spanish inquisition, the enslavement of the African and Native American peoples, and persecution of homosexuality have all been justified by our holy scriptures. According to Matthew 5:9, Jesus said, ""Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God,"
"And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Most High; for you will go before the Lord to prepare his ways, . . . to give light to those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace |
In contrast however, to "Liberal" Christians who believe what Jesus taught about war and violence, "Conservative" Christians, like many in the Southern Baptist Convention ( which broke with the regular Baptists in order to endorse and defend African American slavery) has no problem giving its blessing to war. They promote war in their schools and churches : "Beulah Baptist Church is hosting War Games for teen-agers July 8-10 from 6-9:30 p.m. There will be fun, food, prizes and competitions. The Marines will battle the Navy in areas such as War Ball, Obstacle Course, Volleybomb and Huge Mud-Tag. and even slavery as "God's Word" at www.JesusWouldBeFurious.Org/ +Reasonable/christianconservatism.html. "Imperial Christians who equate patriotism with militarism and nationalism now have a book to guide them : The American Patriot's Bible.' See The American Warmonger's Bible, which I haven't read, but imagine uses some of the deplorably scripture that I feature at WhatKindofGod.org. Conservative Christian warmongers sometimes dare to quote the following words of Jesus to support war : "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword." What a great example of mis-quoting someone out of context! Here is the context : "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's foes will be members of one's own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." It's obvious from the context that Jesus wasn't expressing support for what we call "war" vs. "peace" between countries, but rather the inevitability of strife within families when some members of the family want to follow Jesus and some don't. He said to them, "When I sent you out without a purse, bag, or sandals (or a sword), did you lack anything?" They said, "No, not a thing." He said to them, "But now, the one who has a purse must take it, and likewise a bag. And the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you, this scripture must be fulfilled in me, 'And he was counted among the lawless'; and indeed what is written about me is being fulfilled." They said, "Lord, look, here are two swords." He replied, "It is enough." Does anyone think that Jesus was recommending the use of swords as anything more than a prop in a play, used not to intimidate, but only to educate?
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"A great war leaves the country with three armies : an army of cripples, an army of mourners, and an army of thieves." |
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| The trouble with Pacifism The British writer Hilaire Belloc may have summed it up best in this little poem in "The Pacifist" : But Roaring Bill (who killed him) thought it right." War and peace are a lot like divorce and marriage. It doesn't matter how much one party wants a marriage, if the other wants a divorce. While all it takes for a divorce is one of the parties to want it, it takes both parties to achieve and to maintain a marriage. And the same is true of war and peace. It doesn't matter how much one of the parties wants peace, if the other party wants war. In such a situation, pacifists may want peace but the only choice they have is to die without a fight or try to survive with a fight. Now when the party in question is more than just one individual, but a person or entity responsible for others, such as a parent with children, or a pubilic official responsible for the citizenry. | |
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A Marine's View From the Top
It may seem odd for me, a military man, to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent 33 years in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force -the Marine Corps - . . . I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12.
I brought light to the Dominican Republic Here is the reenactment of a large portion of that outstanding speech : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0&.
Butler published a whole book on the subject, and you can read a great summary of that book at "War is a Racket". Major General didn't serve in all of our country's misadventures. "Kill Anything That Moves": The Real American War in Vietnam is an excellent book published in 2013 by Nick Turse about the extent that immorality was the rule, rather than the execption when it came to the U.S. military in the Vietnam War. See Amazon's review. |
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Bush Coalition's proof that theirs was a "Just War" :
In his memoir, "A World Transformed," published in 1998, George Bush Sr. wrote the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam Hussein at the end of the Gulf War. "Trying to eliminate Saddam. . . would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. . . We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq... There was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land." See the wonderful Letter to G.W.B. from a great Democratic WWII war hero, George McGovern who would have been President of the United States, if the Republicans had not deceived America into voting for Tricky Dick Nixon, instead. regarding Human Rights ( vs. Human Wrongs), see http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diana/documents.htm |
Peace-loving Nuns Have Become Cause C�l�bre: We like to think of ourselves as a just nation. So if you want to hold onto that thought, you might want to stop reading here.
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How can the U. S. military be expected to respect the scriptures of Muslims when they have so little appreciation for the Christian Scriptures that they think it amusing to name a 70 ton killing machine, an Abram tank, "the New Testament"? from an official U.S. Marine Corps page (no longer online). | |
John Shelby Spong, retired Episcopal Bishop, Jan., 2004"The war hype was not related to reality. Iraq posed no imminent threat to the United States. Iraq had nothing to do with the September 11 terrorist attack. Attacking Iraq was a policy decision made before the Bush Administration took power on January 20, 2001.
When President Jimmy Carter spent a year negotiating with the Iranians for the release of over 60 Americans whom they were holding, this Democratic president was considered a whimp because it took him so long to liberate these hostages and bring them all home. The International Red Cross warned Sec. of State Colin Powell about the immorality and/or illegality of the Bush administration policies very early on : www.truthout.org/060309J In the eyes of (former) Pastor Ted Haggard, the founder of "New Life", one of America's most powerful megachurches, and the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, as quoted by Jeff Sharlet in "Inside America's most powerful megachurch," in the May 2005 Harper's (speaking of emerging evangelicals in the Ukraine) :
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| The great reformer, Martin Luther, wasn't always an opponent of war, so it was probably late in his life that he wrote: �"War is the greatest plague that can afflict humanity; it destroys religions, it destroys states, it destroys families. Any scourge is preferable to it." |
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