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Some Challenges for Christians
If our God is so wise, then how could
He let this world get so messed up ?
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If our God is so good, then how
can He let so many suffer so much ?
First, let's look at the mess the world is in
(i.e. this page).
Second, let's look at God's role in this mess.
Third, let's look at the role of the churches.
Fourth, let's look at our role as individuals.
Fifth, let's look at our role as U.S. citizens.

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First, let's look at the mess the world is in.

Planet Earth

If 100 people came to a
meeting to represent the
entire world population,

57 would be Asians , 21 would be Europeans, 8 would be
Africans, and 14 would be from North and South America
would be
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would be
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  • 80 would live in substandard housing.
  • 50 would suffer from malnutrition.
  • 6 of them ( all from the U.S.A.) would own
    almost 60% of the entire world's wealth.
  • Only 1 would have a college education.
  • 70 would be unable to read.
  • Only 1 or2 of them would be looking at this message,
    because the rest would not have a computer.

Click HERE to take a 5 second test, which will show you how you compare to the rest of the world financially. Be sure to come back to this tab afterwards.

It is estimated that one billion people in the world – children, mothers, fathers, grandparents – suffer from hunger and malnutrition. That's roughly 100 times as many as those who actually die from these causes each year. Approximately 24,000 people die each day from hunger or hunger-related causes.  That translates into one person dying every 3.6 seconds – 74% of whom are children.  ( from
        How can a loving God allow the vast majority of mankind to live in abject poverty and squalor, while reserving mind-boggling comfort and luxury for a tiny portion of mankind in developed countries like America?  What kind of God sits idly by and watches as individuals in countries like America accumulate more wealth than they could possibly use if they lived to be a million years old?  According to New York University economist Edward Wolf,

"The financial wealth of the top 1% of Americans now exceeds the combined net worth of the bottom 95%.  Bill Gates' wealth alone exceeds the net worth of the bottom 45%  (of Americans).  The personal assets of Microsoft co-founders Paul Allen and Bill Gates, plus Berkshire Hathaway's Warren Buffet exceed the combined gross domestic products of the world's 41 poorest countries, with their 550 million citizens."

        Actually, as of the year 2003, these billionaires may have been left in the dust by the Waltons, a "Christian" family that hasn't amassed its phenomenal wealth by following the teaching of Christ.  See
how "Wal-Mart" treats its suppliers and employees

        Here is an example of how powerful American corporations "redistribute" wealth, i. e.  from the poor  to the wealthy, and then complain if people vote through their legislators to redistribute wealth from the rich back to the poor :

Here's What Nike Workers "Earned" (as of 2000) !
Nike Spokesman
Tiger Woods
Indonesian Shoe
Factory Worker
Nike CEO
Phil Knight
/ per day
/ per day
$5.8 Billion
net worth
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I am among those who had the privilege of watching Michael Jordon, probably the best basketball player who ever lived.  Sadly however, when at a crucial time in our history, the progressive, African-American, former Charlotte, N.C., mayor Harvey Gantt, had a very good chance in 1990 to unseat Jesse Helms, one of the U.S. Senate's most regressive and racist members, Michael Jordan rebuffed Gantt's campaign when it approached him for an endorsement, saying, "Republicans buy sneakers, too." (and I can't afford to alienate any potential customers).
        Michael Jordan was extremely close to his father.  Among the many things that he was able to buy with his endorsement money was the new Lexus that he gave his father.  On the night of July 23rd in 1993, two black youth killed Jordan's father for that car.  I wonder if they were wearing "air-Jordan" Nike sneakers at the time, and if so, how they came by them.
        "According to Fortune magazine, Jordan's endorsements constitute the greatest assemblage of sports sponsorships ever. But Jordan has shown little concern about the social implications of his sponsorships. He hardly batted an eye at the accusations of wage, labor and health abuses by Jordan-sponsor Nike in its treatment of employees in Southeast Asia."
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        Although the disparity of wealth in the rest of the world is astronomical, even in America, it is intolerable, as is demonstrated in this great site,

Some Grim Statistics :

Conservatives are fond of telling us what a wonderful, happy, prosperous nation this is.  The only thing that matches their love of country is the remarkable indifference they show toward the people who live in it.  To their ears the anguished cries of the dispossessed sound like the peevish whines of malcontents.  They denounce as "bleeding hearts" those of us who criticize existing conditions, who show some concern for our fellow citizens.  But the dirty truth is that there exists a startling amount of hardship, abuse, affliction, illness, violence, and pathology in this country.  The figures reveal a casualty list that runs into many millions.  Consider the following estimates.  In any one year:

  • 27,000 Americans commit suicide.
  • 5,000 attempt suicide; some estimates are higher.
  • 26,000 die from fatal accidents in the home.
  • 23,000 are murdered.
  • 85,000 are wounded by firearms.
  • 38,000 of these die, including 2,600 children.
  • 13,000,000 are victims of crimes including assault, rape, armed robbery, burglary, larceny, and arson.
  • 135,000 children take guns to school.
  • 5,500,000 people are arrested for all offenses (not including traffic violations).
  • 125,000 die prematurely of alcohol abuse.
  • 473,000 die prematurely from tobacco-related illnesses; 53,000 of these are nonsmokers.
  • 6,500,000 use heroin, crack, speed, PCP, cocaine or some other hard drug on a regular basis.
  • 5,000+ die from illicit drug use.  Thousands suffer serious debilitations.
  • 1,000+ die from sniffing household substances found under the kitchen sink.  About 20 percent of all eighth-graders have "huffed" toxic substances.  Thousands suffer permanent neurological damage.
  • 31,450,000 use marijuana; 3,000,000 of whom are heavy usuers.
  • 37,000,000, or one out of every six Americans, regularly use emotion controlling medical drugs.  The users are mostly women.  The pushers are doctors; the suppliers are pharmaceutical companies; the profits are stupendous.
  • 2,000,000 nonhospitalized persons are given powerful mind-control drugs, sometimes described as "chemical straitjackets."
  • 5,000 die from psychoactive drug treatments.
  • 200,000 are subjected to electric shock treatments that are injurious to the brain and nervous system.
  • 600 to 1,000 are lobotomized, mostly women.
  • 25,000,000, or one out of every 10 Americans, seek help from psychiatric, psychotherapeutic, or medical sources for mental and emotional problems, at a cost of over $4 billion annually.
  • 6,800,000 turn to nonmedical services, such as ministers, welfare agencies, and social counselors for help with emotional troubles.  In all, some 80,000,000 have sought some kind of psychological counseling in their lifetimes.
  • 1,300,000 suffer some kind of injury related to treatment at hospitals.
  • 2,000,000 undergo unnecessary surgical operations; 10,000 of whom die from the surgery.
  • 180,000 die from adverse reactions to all medical treatments, more than are killed by airline and automobile accidents combined.
  • 14,000+ die from overdoses of legal prescription drugs.
  • 45,000 are killed in auto accidents.  Yet more cars and highways are being built while funding for safer forms of mass transportation is reduced.
  • 1,800,000 sustain nonfatal injuries from auto accidents; but 150,000 of these auto injury victims suffer permanent impairments.
  • 126,000 children are born with a major birth defect, mostly due to insufficient prenatal care, nutritional deficiency, environmental toxicity, or maternal drug addiction.
  • 2,900,000 children are reportedly subjected to serious neglect or abuse, including physical torture and deliberate starvation.
  • 5,000 children are killed by parents or grandparents.
  • 30,000 or more children are left permanently physically disabled from abuse and neglect.  Child abuse in the United States afflicts more children each year than leukemia, automobile accidents, and infectious diseases combined.  With growing unemployment, incidents of abuse by jobless parents is increasing dramatically.
  • 1,000,000 children run away from home, mostly because of abusive treatment, including sexual abuse, from parents and other adults.  Of the many sexually abused children among runaways, 83 percent come from white families.
  • 150,000 children are reported missing.
  • 50,000 of these simply vanish.  Their ages range from one year to mid-teens.  According to the New York Times, "Some of these are dead, perhaps half of the John and Jane Does annually buried in this country are unidentified kids."
  • 900,000 children, some as young as seven years old, are engaged in child labor in the United States, serving as underpaid farm hands, dishwashers, laundry workers, and domestics for as long as ten hours a day in violation of child labor laws.
  • 2,000,000 to 4,000,00 women are battered.  Domestic violence is the single largest cause of injury and second largest cause of death to U.S. women.
  • 700,000 women are raped, one every 45 seconds.
  • 5,000,000 workers are injured on the job; 150,000 of whom suffer permanent work-related disabilities, including maiming, paralysis, impaired vision, damaged hearing, and sterility.
  • 100,000 become seriously ill from work-related diseases, including black lung, brown lung, cancer, and tuberculosis.
  • 14,000 are killed on the job; about 90 percent are men.
  • 100,000 die prematurely from work-related diseases.
  • 60,000 are killed by toxic environmental pollutants or contaminants in food, water, or air.
  • 4,000 die from eating contaminated meat.
  • 20,000 others suffer from poisoning by E.coli 0157-H7, the mutant bacteria found in contaminated meat that generally leads to lifelong physical and mental health problems.  A more thorough meat inspection with new technologies could eliminate most instances of contamination – so would vegetarianism.

  • At present:
  • 5,100,000 are behind bars or on probation or parole; 2,700,000 of these are either locked up in county, state or federal prisons or under legal supervision.  Each week 1,600 more people go to jail than leave.  The prison population has skyrocketed over 200 percent since 1980.  Over 40 percent of inmates are jailed on nonviolent drug related crimes.  African Americans constitute 13 percent of drug users but 35 percent of drug arrests, 55 percent of drug convictions and 74 percent of prison sentences.  For nondrug offenses, African Americans get prison terms that average about 10 percent longer than Caucasians for similar crimes.
  • 15,000+ have tuberculosis, with the numbers growing rapidly; 10,000,000 or more carry the tuberculosis bacilli, with large numbers among the economically deprived or addicted.
  • 10,000,000 people have serious drinking problems; alcoholism is on the rise.
  • 16,000,000 have diabetes, up from 11,000,000 in 1983 as Americans get more sedentary and sugar addicted.  Left untreated, diabetes can lead to blindness, kidney failure and nerve damage.
  • 160,000 will die from diabetes this year.
  • 280,000 are institutionalized for mental illness or mental retardation.  Many of these are forced into taking heavy doses of mind control drugs.
  • 255,000 mentally ill or retarded have been summarily released in recent years.  Many of the "deinstitutionalized" are now in flophouses or wandering the streets.
  • 3,000,000 or more suffer cerebral and physical handicaps including paralysis, deafness, blindness, and lesser disabilities.  A disproportionate number of them are poor.  Many of these disabilities could have been corrected with early treatment or prevented with better living conditions.
  • 2,400,000 million suffer from some variety of seriously incapacitating chronic fatigue syndrome.
  • 10,000,000+ suffer from symptomatic asthma, an increase of 145 percent from 1990 to 1995, largely due to the increasingly polluted quality of the air we breathe.
  • 40,000,000 or more are without health insurance or protection from catastrophic illness.
  • 1,800,000 elderly who live with their families are subjected to serious abuse such as forced confinement, underfeeding, and beatings.  The mistreatment of elderly people by their children and other close relatives grows dramatically as economic conditions worsen.
  • 1,126,000 of the elderly live in nursing homes.  A large but undetermined number endure conditions of extreme neglect, filth, and abuse in homes that are run with an eye to extracting the highest possible profit.
  • 1,000,000 or more children are kept in orphanages, reformatories, and adult prisons.  Most have been arrested for minor transgressions or have committed no crime at all and are jailed without due process.  Most are from impoverished backgrounds.  Many are subjected to beatings, sexual assault, prolonged solitary confinement, mind control drugs, and in some cases psychosurgery.
  • 1,000,000 are estimated to have AIDS as of 1996; over 250,000 have died of that disease.
  • 950,000 school children are treated with powerful mind control drugs for "hyperactivity" every year – with side effects like weight loss, growth retardation and acute psychosis.
  • 4,000,000 children are growing up with unattended learning disabilities.
  • 4,500,000+ children, or more than half of the 9,000,000 children on welfare, suffer from malnutrition.  Many of these suffer brain damage caused by prenatal and infant malnourishment.
  • 40,000,000 persons, or one of every four women and more than one of every ten men, are estimated to have been sexually molested as children, most often between the ages of 9 and 12, usually by close relatives or family acquaintances.  Such abuse almost always extends into their early teens and is a part of their continual memory and not a product of memory retrieval in therapy.
  • 7,000,000 to 12,000,000 are unemployed; numbers vary with the business cycle.  Increasing numbers of the chronically unemployed show signs of stress and emotional depression.
  • 6,000,000 are in "contingent" jobs, or jobs structured to last only temporarily.  About 60 percent of these would prefer permanent employment.
  • 15,000,000 or more are part-time or reduced-time "contract" workers who need full-time jobs and who work without benefits.
  • 3,000,000 additional workers are unemployed but uncounted because their unemployment benefits have run out, or they never qualified for benefits, or they have given up looking for work, or they joined the armed forces because they were unable to find work.
  • 80,000,000 live on incomes estimated by the U.S. Department of Labor as below a "comfortable adequacy"; 35,000,000 of these live below the poverty level.
  • 12,000,000 of those at poverty's rock bottom suffer from chronic hunger and malnutrition.  The majority of the people living at or below the poverty level experience hunger during some portion of the year.
  • 2,000,000 or more are homeless, forced to live on the streets or in makeshift shelters.
  • 160,000,000+ are members of households that are in debt, a sharp increase from the 100 million of less than a decade ago.  A majority indicate they have borrowed money not for luxuries but for necessities.  Mounting debts threaten a financial crack-up in more and more families.

Obviously these estimates include massive duplications.  Many of the 20 million unemployed are among the 35 million below the poverty level.  Many of the malnourished children are also among those listed as growing up with untreated learning disabilities and almost all are among the 35 million poor.  Many of the 37 million regular users of mind-control drugs also number among the 25 million who seek psychiatric help.
        Some of these deprivations and afflictions are not as serious as others.  The 80 million living below the "comfortably adequate" income level may compose too vague and inclusive a category for some observers (who themselves enjoy a greater distance from the poverty line).  The 40 million who are without health insurance are not afflicted by an actual catastrophe but face only a potential one (though the absence of health insurance often leads to a lack of care and eventually a serious health crisis).

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation,
and I care not who makes its laws."
Banker Amschel Mayer Rothschild (1743-1812)


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