The REAL differences between "Liberal" vs. "Conservative" |
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Before we begin, if the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it ! Not everything that is said on this site about "Liberals" and / or "Conservatives", applies to every person who goes by these labels. Nor,, when we speak of "Democrats" and / or "Republicans", are we talking about every member of those parties. When I use these terms here, we are referring to those who are representative of their group, those who either set the tone for their group or who at least follow the leadership of those who do. If you are a Democrat or a Republican who is at odds with the leadership and / or the mainstream of your party, then don't take it personally, when we say something about your party that doesn't apply to you, precisely because you are an exception to the rule.
When, for example, we say that "Republicans favor the super rich over poorer Americans", we know perfectly well that the majority of Republican voters are not super rich. But the fact is that the decision-makers of the Republican Party are far more concerned about meeting the wishes of its richer members than the needs of its poorer members. So long, therefore, as rank and file Republicans continue to elect as its leaders people who regularly promote policies that benefit the super rich - - such as the reducing if not actually eliminating Capital Gains taxes, Dividend taxes, Income tax rates on the rich, the Estate taxes - which only the super rich pay -, and Corporation taxes - which only the owners of corporations pay -, it will be true that "Republicans favor the super rich". And it will be true that Republican policies result in working class Republicans as well as Democrats being forced to either shoulder the tax burden which the rich avoid paying, or getting stuck with the loss of benefits which can no longer be funded by the reduced tax base. Thanks to all of that "tax cutting" there will be fewer decent schools for the young, fewer opportunities of higher education for all who have the ability and desire to take advantage of it, fewer hospitals for people in all regions of the country, less health insurance for people who can't get good jobs, less care for veterans who cared for the rest of us, less coverage of medication costs for the elderly, less decent affordable housing to avoid homelessness, less correction of injustice of our "justice system" regarding minorities, less improvement of prison system, less relief of world hunger, etc., etc., etc.) Here is the road map of this web page :
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Common, innocent Misconceptions about the meaning of "Liberal" vs. "Conservative" |
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1) Liberalism vs. Conservatism are not about "the status quo" When people try to distinguish the terms conservative vs. liberal in terms of their being in favor or opposed to the "status quo", you can be sure they are confused, because this Latin expression simply means "the current state," in contrast to a proposed change. It's a useful expression, when one knows how to use it. But it's a purely relative expression with absolutely no meaning of its own. To illustrate how useless relative terms can be, imagine contrasting people as "westerners" vs. "easterners" without identifying any reference point. Everybody is east of something and west of something else. So what would those terms mean to you, if you had no idea what the reference point was, i.e. Europe, the U.S.A., or some other geographical area? When any "status quo" is overturned, it is replaced with a new, and possibly opposite, "status quo". Let's take the French Revolution as an example. If you described the revolutionaries as "liberals" because they were opposed to "the status quo" before the revolution, would you call them "conservatives", after the revolution, just because they represented a new "status quo"? If so, would you call the former monarchists who staged a successful "counter-revolution" as 'liberals" because they opposed the "status-quo" over which the radical revolutionaries had presided for a time? Here's a perfect illustration of my point, an actual quote from a post I ran across on the internet, where the author actually embraces this absurd view : "In reality, given the current state of the US, I'd say that the G.O.P. is more "liberal" than the DNC ( "Democratic National Committee") simply because it's the G.O.P. that's trying to change much of the 'status quo' here in the U.S., by banning abortion, bringing prayer back to schools, cutting taxes, etc. I would have to label that as quite "liberal" given that the DNC is trying to maintain more of the status quo." One the most influential conservative leaders of our time, Paul Weyrich, put it well when he said: "We (conservatives) are different from previous generations of conservatives. We are no longer working to preserve the status quo. We are radicals, working to overturn the present power structure of this country." (Do you see how silly it would be to consider such people "liberals" because they oppose the 'status quo'?) Pushed to its logical conclusion, this understanding of the terms should lead people to use "conservative" as a synonym for "party in power" and "liberal" as a synonym for "party out of power". 2) Neither is liberalism about favoring "big government" : There are problems, too, with the idea of "liberals" being contrasted to "conservatives" on the basis of their favoring or opposing "big government". In our own history, for example, Our founding fathers (and mothers) who opposed the big government , the British empire were the liberals of their day, while the conservatives who supported King George were called "loyalists". So it is foolish to say liberals are inherently "in favor of big government". Conservatives were always the ones who opposed "big governments" until the monarchies and dictatorships of the past were replaced by "democracies", i.e. governments designed to better meet the needs of the general population and to keep rich and powerful individuals and corporations in check. . ("Demos" is the Greek word for "people" and the "cracy" part means "govern"). To the extent that such governments have lived up to that promise, liberals (as I will define them below) have tended to favor such "big governments" and conservatives have tended to oppose them. Ever since our nation was born there has been a struggle over the way power, authority and taxation is distributed between the family, the local community, the state and the federal government. Conservatives argue very abstractly about "big" being bad in and of itself. But one of the reasons conservatives dislike the "big" i.e. federal government is the civil war they fought and lost with "the Union" over their preference for "state's rights". Liberals see that very war as a perfect example of the need for a big and strong federal government, to defend weak individuals against the corrupt individuals who seem to exercise much more abusive and corrupt power in small jurisdictions and states than at the federal level. 3) Liberal isn't the opposite of Religious : Another misconception is that liberalism is the antithesis of religion Many liberals have problems with religion as practiced in many times and places. But it's a misrepresentation to say that "liberals" are by their nature against morality, against responsibility, against religion. Liberals are indeed against traditional morality and / or religion, because of the way "conservatives" have taken over and contaminated those moral and religious values and institutions. In just about every revolutionary movement in which the weak have tried to liberate themselves from the yoke of their oppressors, established religions have most often ignored the dictates of their own religion and instead of identifying with and supporting the oppressed, they have sided with the oppressors. By identifying so often with the rich and the powerful, the church has persuaded the liberal friends and allies of the poor to oppose some religious institutions.
4) "Right" vs. "Left" is NOT the same as "Conservative" vs. "Liberal".
One of the greatest occasions for misunderstanding regarding these terms is the deceptive use that political regimes have made of them. Although people know that they shouldn't judge a book by its cover, or trust a used-car deealership just because it's called "Honest George's Used Cars", many view the "Communism" of the Soviet Union as the embodiment "liberalism" and the "Fascism" of Nazi Germany as the embodiment of "Conservatism". But the world of politicians is the last place one should look to for clarity in ideas. Everybody knows that it is in their interest to be "all things to all people". No matter how liberal they may actually be in their hearts, they will want to appear to be conservatives when addressing conservative audiences, and vice versa when it comes to conservative politicians Although Hitler, for example, disagreed with most of what of the Socialists of his day stood for, because of the popularity of their ideas at the time, the leadership of what had been called "the German Workers' Party", changed their name to "the National Socialist German Workers� Party" - which was somehow reduced to the nickname "Nazi". The Nazis actually showcased some "Socialist" proposals in their official platform. But that didn't mean that they really identified with those ideas and intended to act on them! They proved by their actions (i.e. by eliminating as many of Germany's leading liberals, socialists and communists as they could) that their were not socialists. By the same token, just because the dictators who led the Soviet Union, came into power by proclaiming the very liberal ideal "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs" that doesn't mean that they ever intended to act on that principle once they had completed the transfer of power and privilege from the former dictators to themselves. On the contrary. They proved by their actions (i.e. by instituting a dictatorship that they were the very antithesis to true Socialism, which is all about distributing society's wealth and power as evenly and equitably as possible among all of its citizens, which "the Union of Soviet Soviet Republics never did. The countries that have tried to impliment true Socialism have been first and foremost the Scandinavian countries of Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden and the Netherlands. Although the Nazis on "the Right" and the Soviets on "the Left" both PRETENDED to want to promote a liberal distribution of wealth and power to their subjects, their DEEDS showed them both to be conservatives at heart, i.e. they both crushed democracy and enacted tyrannies in their own ways. They didn't fight each other because they had opposite ideologies, but because they each wanted to be the ones to accumulate and "conserve" as much power over as many subjects as they could, just like any good "conservative" does. Every political regime is a mishmash of conservative vs. liberal ideas and policies. and that balance is constantly changing. Although one would be justified in saying that the Soviet Union was more liberal than Nazi Germany, it would be difficult to find more inappropriate examples of what the model liberal vs. the model conservative state would look like. And yet, millions of people confuse "liberal" with "the communist left" and "conservative" with "the fascist right". Because liberals identify with the poor and the oppressed, while their conservative rivals identify with the rich and the powerful - who have always owned most of the presses and radio and television stations - conservatives usually have the ability to turn the minds of the masses against liberals. But you are lucky to have found your way here, and you are about to discover that - contrary to the campaign of misinformation that you have been exposed to - liberalism is one of the greatest contributions to human progress ever developed. There's a never-ending effort by conservatives to confuse people as to what "liberalism " really means. So I'm going to begin by dispelling some of these common smoke-screens : 5) "Liberal" doesn't equal "Licentious" Many people, including both liberals and conservatives, confuse the terms "liberal", "libertine", and "licentious". Many conservatives have been led to believe that the word "liberal" is a synonym for some or all of the following : "abandoned, corrupt, debauched, degenerate, depraved, dissipated, hell-bent, lax, lewd, loose, playboy, profligate, reprobate, slack, unconstrained, unprincipled, unrestrained, vicious, wanton, wayward, and wicked" those are all synonyms for the words "libertine" and "licentious", not "liberal". To be libertine, or licentious, is not a way of thinking but a way of acting, a way which most serious people view as immoral. To be liberal, on the other hand, is a way of thinking, a philosophy, an ideology. Now people who think liberally may also act licentiously, but so can conservatives. In fact, I document a great many examples of conservatives in positions of leadership in the Republican Party who have shown themselves to be more licentious and immoral than their counterparts in the Democratic Party. ( See Republican corruption galore.) If you want to see what truly licentious "church" is, check out "the Children of God", later known as "The Family of Love" or "The Family" and currently "The Family International". Although it was founded by a very fundamentalist Baptist preacher and has a very conservative theology in most respects, unlike we "Liberals Like Christ", this church is extremely licentious when it comes to heterosexual morality. ( Playboy magazine commissioned a poll in mid 2006 which revealed that 36% of its readers are Republicans compared to 25% Democrat, 25% independent and 14% other parties.) We will spell out what it really means to be a liberal below. 6) Liberalism isn't about getting undeserved benefits at the expense of others who work hard. The following observations are not from a liberal, but from the ultra-conservative radio talk show host, Neal Boortz, regarding : to each according to their needs" "Though there is good evidence that Marx actually lifted this little ditty from the Torah (an important part of the Old Testament), it has become recognized as perhaps the pre-eminent motto of Communism. I bring this up today because it is becoming increasingly clear that the international Communist movement needs to get one of its lawyer pals to hurry out there and trademark its precious motto. If it doesn't act fast, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs" is going to become the de facto motto of the Democratic Party, quickly becoming known as the Socialist Democratic Party." Everyone has heard of "guilt by association". In this case conservatives reject the teaching of the bible because they associate that teaching in their minds with Karl Marx, while ignoring the fact that Boortz himself recognizes in the passage above that Marx stole the very core principle of his philosophy from the Bible! 7) What about "tax and spend", and "bleeding heart" liberals? Conservatives have no problem with government taxing and spending so long as the spending is done on their own businesses and industries, so that they add to their own bottom lines. Liberals, on the other hand, believe in taxing "the haves" - which often includes themselves - in order to distribute wealth back to "the have-nots." They do so in part for perfectly selfish reasons, believing that when poor people do not have reliable and sufficient income, they are much more likely to resort to crime to get what they need to support themselves and their families. But another reason they do so is the inspiration they have gotten from the teaching of the great prophets of the Hebrew Bible on the one hand, and from Jesus of Nazareth on the other. See LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/GODvsGreed. Conservatives try to intimidate people like me by referring to us as "bleeding-heart liberals", because of the many instances in which we are concerned about the suffering of needy and helpless people. Have we ever seen or heard the media refer to "bleeding heart conservatives"? "What is that?" you ask. Why it's conservatives who - instead of commiserating with the suffering of the poor - "feel the pain" of the super-wealthy. Conservatives cringe at the thought of multi-millionaires being required to pay taxes on their million dollar income from dividends and capital gains, just like common laborers are required to pay taxes on their income from labor. It's conservatives who "feel the pain" of the children of those millionaires, who have to pay estate taxes on whatever they inherit from their parents through no merit of their own, after the first million dollars or so is entirely exempted from that tax. The only time we will hear criticism of these views in the media is every two to four years, when a liberal candidate has paid thousands of dollars to buy a few seconds of air time from the conservatives who own just about all of the major media in America these days. A liberal woman I know told me about a date she had with a Republican: "When I asked this guy why he was a Republican, he said, and I quote exactly, "because I believe that there are the haves and the have-nots in this world, and being one of the haves, I vote to keep that." Rarely do you find such candor, especially from a conservative Republican! | |||
What's so bad about being "Liberal"? Conservatives seem to think that they have the power to define words any way they like. So ignoring what dictionaries and other authoritative source say they make "liberal" out to be a dirty word. But for the sake of those who do believe that dictionaries - not conservatives - are the authorities on the correct spelling, pronunciation and meaning of words, this is the what Roget's Thesaurus and what dictionaries like ( http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=liberal or http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/l/l0148700.html : ) say the word "liberal" means : Roots (i.e. etymological history) =c.1375, from Old French lib�ral "befitting free men, noble, generous," from Latin liberalis "noble, generous," lit. "pertaining to a free man," from liber "free," . Earliest reference in Eng. is to the liberal arts (Latin artes liberales, the seven attainments directed to intellectual enlargement, not immediate practical purpose, and thus deemed worthy of a free man (the word in this sense was opposed to servile or mechanical). Sense of "free in bestowing" is from 1387. With a meaning "free from restraint in speech or action" (1490) liberal was used 16c.-17c. as a term of reproach. It revived in a positive sense in the Enlightenment, with a meaning "free from prejudice, tolerant," which emerged 1776-88. Purely in ref. to political opinion, "tending in favor of freedom and democracy", it dates from c. 1801, from French. lib�ral, originally applied in Eng. by its opponents (often in Fr. form and with suggestions of foreign lawlessness) to the party favorable to individual political freedoms. But also (especially in U.S. politics) tending to mean "favorable to government action to effect social change," which seems at times to draw more from the religious sense of "free from prejudice in favor of traditional opinions and established institutions" (and thus open to new ideas and plans of reform), which dates from 1823.
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The word "conservative", on the other hand, is defined as:
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Is the BIBLE an authoritative source for you? Did you know that until the rich the powerful succeeded in turning "liberal" into a "four letter word", that word meant "generous", "righteous" or "noble", as you can still read in the King James version of the Bible : "The liberal (i.e. generous) soul shall be made fat ( i.e. "prosperous"}: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself. He that withholdeth corn, the people shall curse him: but blessing shall be upon the head of him that selleth it. He that diligently seeketh good procureth favour: but he that seeketh mischief, it shall come unto him. He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch. { Proverbs 11: 25-28} "The vile person shall be no more called liberal ( i.e. "noble" in the NRSV ), nor the churl said to be bountiful. For the vile person will speak villainy, and his heart will work iniquity, to practice hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail. The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right. But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand." { Isaiah 32: 5-8 }"they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men" ( which the NSRV renders as "; the generosity of your sharing with them") { 2 Corinthians 9:13 } You won't find the word "conservative" used in a good way in the Bible, because it's not there. What you will find, however, in the writings of "Christian conservatives" is the twisting of Bible verses to justify their beliefs. To give you but a few examples, Despite everything the bible teaches against reliance on weapons "Christian conservatives" will quote Luke 22: 36 "he who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one." to support their NRA theology. They count on people not knowing the context of that verse, which makes it clear that Jesus abhors weapons of violence, that this is nothing but a symbolic gesture, "For I tell you, this scripture must be fulfilled in me, 'And he was counted among the lawless' (for apart from the military, only the lawless would be likely to carry weapons). They said, 'Lord, look, here are two swords.' He replied, 'It is enough.' " Later Jesus reprimanded Peter for using his sword, saying In Matt.26:52 "Put your sword back into its place; for all who take the sword will perish by the sword." Despite everything the bible teaches about helping the needy, "Christian conservatives" will quote Jesus' words, "You always have the poor with you," as though liberal efforts to alleviate poverty is a sin against God, when it is clear from the context that all Jesus was saying is "Don't use helping the poor - which I recommend all the time - as a justification for condemning a good-hearted woman. (John 12:4-8) | |||
What IS "Liberalism"? I would dare say that there's not a single person in these United States of America who doesn't identify with the words of Thomas Jefferson in The Declaration of Independence,Since that is one of the best definitions of liberalism ever expressed, to whatever extent they embrace that statement Americans are all liberals, whether they know it or not! Liberalism is simply the belief that we humans need to stick together and to fight the few powerful individuals and groups who would exploit those less powerful than themselves. We need to fight to constantly make progress together, and not to allow any of our more vulnerable brothers or sisters to be left behind. People sometimes claim that liberalism has changed a great deal over time. Some conservatives even claim that they are the heirs of great liberals of the past! But the truth is that it's not liberalism that has changed, but the people who have needed to be liberated. While the first generation of great American liberals liberated the male European colonists of their day, the liberalism of some of those "founding fathers" wasn't great enough to extend - as it should have - to the Native American population, to the African American population, to their own wives and daughters, or to the homosexual members of their families and community. In their heart of hearts, they knew that Thomas Jefferson's words couldn't be limited to "their own kind". Abraham Lincoln said it best, "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, cannot long retain it." We believe it is far more insightful and useful to view "Conservatism" not just as an abstract ideology, but as an ideology at the service of a passion, namely the passion of those who already have or who strive to achieve some advantage over others, i.e. in terms of what its adherents are really intent on conserving (and/or acquiring in the future). And that is power, wealth, advantage and/or privilege, all of which are intertwined. Over the course of history, we view the "conservatives" as the people who defended the privileges of the few, over against the efforts of the "liberals" to distribute society's wealth and power more fairly and evenly among all of society's members. While "Communism" has been considered "leftist" and "liberal", it was only liberal to the extent that it claimed to redistribute wealth and power among the population. In actual fact, to the extent that the policies of those who took charge of "Communist" countries were designed to preserve the advantages of the few in power over the masses, those countries were no more "liberal" than professedly "conservative" ones. Cuba is "liberal" to the extent that it guarantees public education and health care to all of its citizens, just as the U.S. is "liberal" to the extent that it guarantees public education and "social security" to all of its citizens. But to the extent that both countries protect unfair advantages of some citizens over others, they are "conservative" An interesting question is whether the effort of Marxist countries to suppress religion is a manifestation of their conservatism or their liberalism. The latter is what many have assumed, but I would argue that it depends on the religion. If the religion in question was conservative and an ally of the former oppressive aristocracy, then I understand why Communism's liberal side would have opposed it, but if a any government has a problem with a religion that has a record of being liberal and an ally of the oppressed, then that is evidence of that government's conservatism, regardless of its reputation of being "left" or"right".
The conservative vs. liberal struggle will always exist so long as there is an unjust distribution of power, wealth and/or privilege. But it manifests itself in different times and places in different ways, depending on how those benefits are distributed among the various parties of a particular situation. In America these days, white, Christian, heterosexual, middle-income, English-speaking, native born, males of European heritage who are in good health, well-educated, employed and living in a decent neighborhood are very likely to be "conservative". as they have a dozen major advantages over others that they might want to "conserve" and exploit. While the victims of discrimination or oppression are naturally viewed as liberals, some of these demonstrate when they have succeeded in gaining some degree of power, wealth and/or other advantage over others that they can be conservative too. (The way some African Americans look down on the struggles of homosexuals comes to mind.) True liberals are people with the power and/or wealth to dominate others who instead use their advantages to work to empower and/or enrich those less fortunate than themselves.
Some of our nation's greatest liberals have been "Republicans" : One of the greatest U. S. presidents was the Republican, Abraham Lincoln, who once set forth the liberal principle: "Government should do for people what they cannot do for themselves." After he had been president for two terms ending in 1908, and was running in 1912 as a third party Progressive candidate. Here is the way Theodore Roosevelt described the role of government : " The only way in which our people can increase their power over the big corporation that does wrong, the only way in which they can protect the working man in his conditions of work and life, the only way in which the people can prevent children working in industry or secure women an eight hour day in industry, or secure compensation for men killed or crippled in industry, is by extending, instead of limiting, the power of government. "There was once a time in history when the limitation of governmental power meant increasing liberty for the people. In the present day the limitation of governmental power, of governmental action, means the enslavement of the people by the great corporations who can only be held in check through the extension of governmental power." (Address at San Francisco, September 14, 1912" in Harbaugh, The Writings of Theodore Roosevelt, pp. 288-291.)"[A] simple and poor society can exist as a democracy on the basis of sheer individualism. But a rich and complex industrial society cannot so exist; for some individuals, and especially those artificial individuals called corporations, become so very big that the ordinary is utterly dwarfed beside them, and cannot deal with them on terms of equality." ( Theodore Roosevelt, An Autobiography, 276)"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." - Theodore Roosevelt - Conservatives who imagine that the difference between "successful" people and "the needy" is hard work should consider Helen Keller their patron saint because of the way she overcame her many handicaps to be a very successful person. Yet this is what Helen Keller had to say about this matter: "I had once believed that we were all masters of our fate-that we could mould our lives into any form we pleased . . . I had overcome deafness and blindness sufficiently to be happy, and I supposed that anyone could come out victorious if he threw himself valiantly into life's struggle. But as I went more and more about the country I learned that I had spoken with assurance on a subject I knew little about. I forgot that I owed my success partly to the advantages of my birth and environment . . . Now, however, I learned that the power to rise in the world is not within the reach of everyone." (H.K., Midstream:My Later Life (N.Y., Greenwood, page 156) "The country is governed for the richest, for the corporations, the bankers, the land speculators, and for the exploiters of labor." Helen KellerWhat she learned when her eyes and ears were opened, so to speak, led her to become not just a basic liberal, but a passionate advocate of all kinds of socialist causes, like worker rights, women's rights, civil rights and pacifism. She was one of the authors whose works were targeted by the Nazis for burning. Are today's conservatives "classical liberals"? When confronted by the inescapable fact that most of our nation's greatest heroes of the past were definitely not conservatives, but liberals, many conservatives claim that "liberalism" meant something very different in earlier times. The truth is that it's not liberalism that has changed over the years, but its targets or beneficiaries. Those who benefitted first and have always benefitted most from the liberating efforts of America's founding fathers were the well-to-do, white, heterosexual, Christian, males. It's great that today's conservatives have such a high regard for the concept of liberalism that they want to claim it for themselves by claiming to be "classical liberals", but these people aren't like the true liberals among our founding fathers, i.e. the best of them who believed in liberty and equality for its own sake, and who wanted these benefits extended to women and to African Americans as well as people like themselves. No, today's so-called "classical liberals" are like those founding fathers who were content, like good conservatives, to enjoy the benefits of freedom and "equality" for themselves but resisted extending those same benefits to women and blacks, just as their conservative counterparts in our day resist extending such benefits to other minorities. Meanwhile, the true liberals of our time are not content with having won the battles to win freedom and equality for well-to-do, white, heterosexual, Christian, males, and then for African Americans, for women, for common laborers, for the aged, for the handicapped. They continue to battle the conservative "classical liberals" of our day to extend the benefits of justice and equality to immigrants, to the imprisoned, to those accused of crimes, for women's reproductive health and to those in the GLBT communities.Thursday, December 08, 2011 "There are two ways of viewing the government's duty in matters affecting economic and social life. The first sees to it that a favored few are helped and hopes that some of their prosperity will sift through, to labor, to the farmer, to the small businessman. That theory belongs to the party of Toryism, and I had hoped that most of the (conservative) Tories left this country in 1776. But it is not and never will be the theory of the Democratic Party. Ours must be a party of liberal thought, of planned action, of enlightened international outlook, and of the greatest good to the greatest number of our citizens. Franklin D Roosevelt (1932 acceptance speech)Some issues aren't liberal or Conservative : There are some political issues, that have relatively little to do with "liberalism" or "Conservatism". These only serve to muddy the waters, if they are not seen for what they are, i.e. "neutral" issues. When liberals are in office, for example, it's not their ideology, but their control of the government that makes them favor war, law and order, taxation, government spending, raises in government salaries and the like, while conservatives will oppose these precisely because they are the ones out of power. But when conservatives get into power, they may very well support many of the government policies which they opposed when they were on the outside looking in. For the same reasons, both are far more enthusiastic supporters of political reform, when they are the ones trying to gain the seats of power, than when they are the ones firmly esconced in those seats of power. Why are liberals tolerant, and conservatives doctrinaire? Beginning with the easier part of that question, because conservatives identify with a group or groups of people whom they at least perceive to be superior to others, they are easily persuaded that they in possession of the "truth" (in politics, religion, morality, or whatever area about which they are conservative). And so, they tend to be orthodox, doctrinaire, intolerant, judgmental, arrogant, elitist, mission-minded, pushy, haughty and the like, very much like Paul of Tarsus. Liberals, on the other hand, don't want to view others as inferiors, but strive to bring everyone up to the same level of equality. So they don't want to feel superior to others or to force their views upon others, nor to have others force their views on them. If anyone may have been justified in feeling superior to others, it may have been Jesus of Nazareth, and yet . . . "Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done a fine job of getting government out of our personal lives." { author unknown } See also the hilarious explanation of "Why I'm joining the GOP (leaving the left for fun and profit)" by Jeff Gillenkirk, a speechwriter for former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo. & another honest & impartial attempt to define liberalism. Why are conservatives so tolerant, of dishonesty and ignorance? Is it because of the powerful influence of the opinion leaders that they follow, i.e. people like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, Sarah Palin, Anne Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Karl Rove? The ignorance and/or dishonesty of these conserrvative mouthpieces is so blattant that one has to wonder if the reason their followers don't want to admit the plain truth as that they aren't the victims in this situation, but rather the patrons calling the tunes. | |||
The terms "liberal" vs. "conservative" have varied some over the years, but if you could boil them down to their essence, I think you would find the contrast below. There may be few people who are totally liberal, or totally conservative, but the more liberal they are, the more they will exhibit the traits in the Left-hand column below, while the more conservative they are, the more they will exhibit the traits in the Right-hand column : |
The contrast between
"liberals" & "conservatives" in general : | |
"Liberals" | "Conservatives" |
tend to identify with and have concern for whole classes of people, for "society", or "mankind" |
tend to identify with oneself and to have concern for one's immediate family, one's neighborhood, or one's race. |
tend to look forward, with confidence in the future, and dissatisfaction with the past. |
tend to look backward, with satisfaction over the past and suspicion over the future. |
Scientists tend to be Liberals and liberals respect and use science. |
Scientists are rarely conservative and conservatives have little respect for science. |
tend to embrace All groups (not just one's own or the dominant race, religion, class, gender, age, sexual orientation, etc.) |
Inclusive only of those of one's own class, group, neighborhood, religion, country, etc., |
tend to view people in need as a challenge for which a permanent system-wide solution should be found. |
tend to view people in need as opportunities for "entrepreneurs" to create profit-making enterprises (see my whole page entitled guardiansofgreed.html and the "Acre of Diamonds" section in particular.) |
Emphasis on being responsible for the whole community, and for it's past & future, as well as present. |
Emphasis on being responsible mainly for oneself, and focus mainly on the present. |
Every human being is entitled to many basic human rights just because they have been born into the human family. | We are born with nothing but the hair on our heads and no right to anything unless and until we or our parents can earn it for us. |
The instinct of liberals is to defend the rights of their opponents to differ. |
The instinct of conservatives is to suppress dissent & oppose "right to know" policies. |
Liberals see the world in a multitude of colors, recognize, invite and welcome diversity, complexity and subtlety, etc., etc.. |
Conservatives tend to view situations as either black or white, good or evil, guilty or innocent, for or against us, right or wrong, socialist vs. capitalist, patriotic or treasonous, simple rather than complex, etc., etc., |
Elevate the powerless | Exploit the powerless |
Liberals think that what causes many people to be poor is injustice in the principal transactions of life, i.e. unfair wages for the labor they provide, unfair prices for the goods and services they have to purchase, unfair policies regarding health care, law enforcement, working conditions, discrimination, etc., | Conservatives think that "successful people" become prosperous by working hard and they need to be defended from the injustice of politicians stealing from the rich to support the lazy. |
Promotion of progressive taxation (in order to finance public services). |
Opposition to most forms of taxation (and to the public services they make possible). |
as much equality as possible (e.g. support for taxation of the super-wealthy) |
Unlimited INequality (opposition to taxation of the super-wealthy) |
When liberals are in control, the laws passed and/or enforced tend to fall on the rich and the powerful, rather than on "little people" | When conservatives are in control, the laws passed and enforced tend to fall on "little people", rather than on the rich and the powerful. |
Affirmative Action on behalf of minorities |
Negative INaction which benefits the majority |
O K with paying taxes, if money is used to care for the needs of others, i.e. the young, old, sick, handicapped, minorities, etc., etc. |
O K with paying taxes, if money is used for their own security, i.e. law-enforcement, prisons, and national "defense". |
Creativity & New ideas: Liberals respect the ability of all men to think for themselves and welcome and respect new and different insights and discoveries by thinkers in every field. (Reason is supreme). |
Tradition & Orthodoxy : Conservatives are insecure in their own ability to find the truth and need to have "orthodox" doctrine handed down to them from supernatural and / or political authority figures. ( Faith and blind obedience are supreme.) |
The contrast between "liberals" & "conservatives" in the area of national policy : |
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"Liberals" | "Conservatives" |
believe large scale problems are best solved with public non-profit social programs | believe large scale problems are best solved with private profit-making individual solutions |
Liberals would rather admit the country needs to make progress in order to make progress. | Conservatives would rather the country not make progress if it means admitting that the country is not number one. |
Trust power in the hands of large (public) government over large (private) corporations |
Trust power in the hands of large (private) corporations over large (public) government |
Favoring Distribution of wealth and power to as many as possible |
Favoring Concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the elite few who have earned them |
Promotion of Unions & Collective Bargaining |
Promotion of individualistic private enterprise & "Freedom to Work" |
Union of States and belief in federal government |
Independence of States belief in "states' rights" and distrust of federal government |
History of opposition to slavery | History of defense of slavery |
promotion of higher minimum wage and even "a liveable wage" |
keep wages as "minimum" as possible ( whatever "the market" allows or even "dictates") |
The public should insure just wages for all its citizens, by law |
Nothing but "market forces" should determine what employers have to pay employees |
promotion of Health Care for all who need it : (Universal public plan). |
Health Care Insurance only for those who can afford it. (for-profit private plans). |
Both sides view themselves as champions fighting for liberty, freedom and justice, but they have very different ideas as to whom to protect and from whom : | |
Freedom for ALL : (requiring restraint of the rich and powerful) |
Freedom for the rich and powerful : ( with as much "deregulation" as possible) |
Oppose the proliferation of guns, because they end up so often killing innocent people. | Embrace guns, because they enable even weak people the ability to threaten and overpower large numbers of other people. |
The contrast between "liberals" & "conservatives" in the area of international policy : | |
"Liberals" | "Conservatives" |
Believe in United Nations & the World Court |
Distrust United Nations & of World Court |
Do everything possible to achieve Peace, and settle for War only as a last resort | View waging War as proof of patriotism, manhood, etc., and Peace as proof of cowardice |
The contrast between "liberals" & "conservatives" where religion is concerned : | |
"Liberals" | "Conservatives" |
Tend to prefer and follow the teaching of Jesus of Nazareth, rather than that of Paul of Tarsus. Compare and contrast LiberalsLikeJesus.Org/Christlike.html to ![]() |
Tend to prefer and follow the teaching of Paul of Tarsus, rather than that of Jesus of Nazareth. Compare and contrast JesusWouldBeFurious.Org/Paulvsall.html with ![]() |
One of the best ways of seeing the contrast is to look at "Poster Boys" for both sides: | |
of the Left : Presidents & candidates: F.D.R., J.F.K., Hubert Humphrey, L.B.J., McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Clinton Senators: Ted Kennedy, Pat Leahy, Tom Daschle, Hillary Clinton, Paul Wellstone, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Congressmen: Dick Gephardt, Nancy Pelosi, John Conyers, Barbara Lee, Cynthia McKinney Commentators: Al Franken, Randi Rhodes, Alan Colmes, James Carville, Mike Malloy |
of the Right : Presidents & candidates: Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes Senators": Bill Frist, Phil Gramm, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Trent Lott , Mitch McConnell, Ron Nickles. Congressmen: Tom Delay, Newt Gingrich, Sensenbrenner, Commentators: Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, Bob Novak, Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Mary Matlin, Michelle Malkin, Glenn Beck. |
Leading Role in the movie classic "It's a Wonderful Life": |
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Populist George Bailey | Capitalist Mr. Potter |
10 Policies for a better America In the Fall of 2008, YES magazine published a great article on a great many issues on which the majority of Americans agree. Here's a great poster that summarizes all of these issues.Although the article views the consensus on all of these issues as "non-partisan", I would argue that most of of the positions on these issues are more liberal than conservative. See the whole article at http://www.yesmagazine.org/article.asp?id=2836. ![]() |
How do YOU view them ? There's a tremendous difference between the way that non-Christians are viewed by conservatives vs. liberal Christians. And consider the paradox that on the one hand, the vast majority of mankind are either unaware of Jesus, undecided about him or indifferent, and on the other the vast majority of Americans profess to be Christians, that contrast is both interesting and consequential. Interestingly enough, if you go to the Gospels to find out "What would Jesus do?", you'll get two very different answers. While Matthew has Jesus saying that the vast majority of mankind "are against him" (which is the answer conservatives can relate to, while Mark and Luke has Jesus saying the very opposite (which liberals prefer), that the vast majority of mankind "are for him". |
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conservative version: According to Matthew 12:30, Jesus said "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. |
Mark & Luke : & according to Luke 9:49-50. (When John reported to Jesus), "Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not follow with us." (Jesus reprimanded John, saying:) "Do not stop him; for whoever is not against you (i.e. against us) is for you." |
It's rather foolish to imagine that you can really find out what liberals believe, by going only to conservative sources; just as it would be foolish to go only to liberal sources, to find out what conservatives believe. That is why I was so pleased to discover a web site where a Southern conservative Christian does an outstanding job of laying out the Theology of conservative Christianity in America's Bible Belt, from which most of the beliefs of Christian conservatives in America are derived. In contrast to these pages of mine, which strive to fair even to those with whom I disagree, check out what Right-wingers view as "an honest examination of Democrats vs Republicans" at www.toberight.com/2011/05/democrats-vs-republicans/ This stufff is hilarious ! |
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if and when they get the chance: On March 5, 2004, the ultra-conservative magazine, Human Events, published its annual ("top ten") list of U. S. Federal Programs that conservatives dislike the most, listed in order of level of conservative contempt from 100% down, (along with the life span of the program). |
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Here's the way one of favorite spokesmen of U.S. conservatism put it:
"If we stuck to the Constitution as written, we would have: no federal meddling in our schools; no Federal Reserve; no U. S. membership in the U.N.; no gun control; and no foreign aid. We would have no welfare for big corporations, or the "poor"; No American troops in 100 foreign countries; no NAFTA, GATT, or "fast-track"; no arrogant federal judges usurping states rights; no attacks on private property; and no income tax. We can get rid of most of the cabinet departments, most of the agencies, and most of the budget. The government would be small, frugal, and limited." - Congressman Ron Paul - |
Conservative self-expression (from "www.thoseshirts.com"):
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